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Will the U.S. Default in the Next 10 Years? Jan van Eck's Warning

The VanEck CEO says the U.S. won't honor all its obligations within a decade, starting with Social Security. Here's what he means and what the official numbers say.


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Nov 6, 2026

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Will the U.S. Default in the Next 10 Years? Jan van Eck's Warning

The short answer: Jan van Eck thinks so, but by his own broad definition. On The Pomp Podcast, the VanEck CEO said a "default" is the U.S. failing to honor any of its obligations, not just missing a Treasury bond payment. His example is Social Security: the program's trustees project that its retirement trust fund will run out in late 2032, after which only 78% of scheduled benefits could be paid unless Congress acts. That would be a benefit cut under current law, not a default on U.S. debt, and his 10-year call is his opinion, not a certainty.

Drawing on The Pomp Podcast, hosted by Anthony Pompliano (anthonypompliano.com), with guest Jan van Eck, CEO of VanEck (episode released November 5, 2026).

Jan van Eck runs VanEck, which he said manages about $235 billion. When Pomp asked how investors can protect themselves from government spending, Jan laid out why he thinks the next crisis will come from Washington. Here is his argument, what the official numbers say and where the definitions matter.

What does Jan van Eck mean by a U.S. default?

Jan uses the word loosely. He said he asks people when the United States will not honor its obligations: "Some people call that a default." When he tells them it will happen in the next 10 years, he said, "literally 99% of people say no." He is not predicting that the Treasury will miss an interest or principal payment on its bonds. He is pointing to promises like Social Security that the government may not keep in full.

Is Social Security going to cut benefits in 2032?

Under current law, a cut is projected. In their 2026 report, released June 9, 2026, the Social Security trustees project that the Old-Age and Survivors Insurance (OASI) trust fund will be depleted in the fourth quarter of 2032, with 78% of benefits payable at that time. The combined retirement and disability funds are projected to last until 2034, with 83% of benefits payable then. Congress can change this by raising revenue, trimming benefits or moving money between funds. Jan's point is that every option has a cost.

On the show he put it this way: "2032, six years from now, they're going to cut payments to Social Security." When people tell him the money will come from somewhere, he asks, "Are they going to do that without causing massive inflation or other kinds of risks?"

Will the U.S. inflate its way out of debt?

That is what Jan expects. "We're going to inflate our way out of our debt," he said, adding that "there's no easy answer and it's not going to be pretty." He noted that voters have punished politicians for inflation. For the bond market side of this, see Will the 10-Year Treasury Yield Hit 6%? and What Is the Treasury's Quarterly Refunding?

Can AI bail out government spending?

Jan does not think so. Asked whether AI-driven deflation could let Washington keep spending, he said no, because the government is "writing checks to people" for health care and retirement. He argued new treatments such as GLP-1 drugs will keep health spending high, and that past technologies like the PC and the internet were also deflationary without fixing deficits. Related: Is the AI Spending Boom a Bubble?

What does Jan van Eck recommend investors do?

He says investors should own "real assets, gold and Bitcoin in your portfolio," while admitting you don't know if they will pay off. His full case is in Why Does Jan van Eck Think Investors Should Own Gold and Bitcoin?

Key takeaways

  • Jan van Eck defines a U.S. "default" broadly, as the government not honoring an obligation. That is different from missing a Treasury payment.

  • Social Security's trustees project the retirement trust fund will be depleted in late 2032, with 78% of scheduled benefits payable after that under current law.

  • Combined retirement and disability reserves are projected to last until 2034, with 83% payable then.

  • Jan expects the U.S. to inflate its way out of its debt and doubts AI can bail out government spending.

  • His 10-year call is an opinion. Congress can still change Social Security's finances.

Best quotes from this episode

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"Some people call that a default."

Jan van Eck, November 5, 2026 (16:06)
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"literally 99% of people say no."

Jan van Eck, November 5, 2026 (16:10)
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"Are they going to do that without causing massive inflation or other kinds of risks"

Jan van Eck, November 5, 2026 (16:28)
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"there's no easy answer and it's not going to be pretty."

Jan van Eck, November 5, 2026 (16:45)

FAQ

Will the U.S. default in the next 10 years?

Jan van Eck thinks the U.S. will fail to honor some obligation within 10 years, using a broad definition that includes cutting Social Security benefits. He is not predicting a missed Treasury bond payment, and his view is an opinion.

When will Social Security run out of money?

The 2026 Trustees Report projects the OASI retirement trust fund will be depleted in the fourth quarter of 2032. The combined OASI and DI funds are projected to last until 2034.

How much would Social Security benefits be cut?

If Congress does not act, about 78% of scheduled retirement benefits would be payable after the OASI fund is depleted in 2032, according to the trustees.

Is a Social Security cut the same as a Treasury default?

No. A Treasury default means missing payments on U.S. government debt. Reduced Social Security benefits under current law would be a benefit cut, which Jan van Eck counts as not honoring an obligation.

Can AI fix the U.S. deficit?

Jan van Eck does not think so. He said the government is writing checks for health care and retirement, and that past deflationary technologies did not fix deficits.

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Watch or listen to the full episode

Hear Jan van Eck explain why he thinks the U.S. will not honor all its obligations.

"Bitcoin Is the Hedge Against a U.S. Default Nobody Sees Coming" with Jan van Eck, November 5, 2026. The discussion starts around the 14-minute mark.

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Related reading

  • Will the 10-Year Treasury Yield Hit 6%?

  • What Is the Treasury's Quarterly Refunding?

  • Why Does Jan van Eck Think Investors Should Own Gold and Bitcoin?

  • Is the Crypto ETF Boom Over?

Sources

  • Social Security Administration: Social Security Board of Trustees press release (June 9, 2026)

  • Social Security Administration: A Summary of the 2026 Annual Reports

  • The Pomp Podcast: Bitcoin Is the Hedge Against a U.S. Default Nobody Sees Coming with Jan van Eck, Nov. 5, 2026 (from 15:52)

Last updated: November 6, 2026

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