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Is the Stock Market Rally Spreading Beyond Tech?

On October 22, 324 of the S&P 500's stocks rose while the index fell. Ryan Detrick on why broader breadth is healthy, and why he still wants tech to lead.


The Pomp Podcast
By The Pomp Podcast

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Oct 28, 2026

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6 min read


Is the Stock Market Rally Spreading Beyond Tech?

The short answer: Yes. More stocks are participating even on days when tech falls. On October 22, 324 of the S&P 500's 500 stocks rose while the index fell 1.4% and tech dropped 3.3%, according to Carson Group. Carson's Ryan Detrick sees broader breadth and calm credit markets as healthy, but he still expects tech to "lead us into next year," and says the bull case depends on it.

Drawing on The Pomp Podcast, hosted by Anthony Pompliano (anthonypompliano.com), with Ryan Detrick, Chief Market Strategist at Carson Group (episode released October 27, 2026).

For years, the complaint about this bull market was that it was too narrow, carried by a handful of giant tech stocks. That is changing. On The Pomp Podcast on October 27, Ryan Detrick, Chief Market Strategist at Carson Group, said more stocks are participating even on days when tech falls, and that the strength in other sectors is a sign the bull market is healthier than it looks. He also explained why he still wants tech to lead. Here's the breakdown.

Is the stock market rally broadening out?

Yes. "Yeah, tech has a bad day and then you have like 300 or 400 stocks up," Detrick said, pointing to last week. On Facts vs Feelings Episode 211, Carson noted that on October 22, 324 of the 500 stocks in the S&P 500 rose and the median stock gained 1.1%, even as the index fell 1.4% and tech dropped 3.3%.

The equal-weight S&P 500, which tracks the average stock rather than the biggest ones, tells the same story. Phil Rosen of Opening Bell Daily, who is also chief market strategist at Silvia, Inc, wrote on October 26 that the equal-weight index is up 13% this year versus 11.4% for the S&P 500.

Which sectors are leading if not tech?

Defensive ones, along with a rebound in software. "Healthcare is ripping, staples are ripping," Detrick said, describing different areas "taking that baton" while tech took a step back. Carson also noted software gained over 6% last week.

He said he was encouraged that a major foreign stock market crashed recently with little effect on U.S. stocks. In his telling, the S&P 500 has gone mostly sideways for about five months after a roughly 15% rally in April and May, which he called frustrating but healthy consolidation.

Can the average stock do well while big tech falls?

It has before. Pomp raised a chart from Phil Rosen showing that during the dot-com bust, the S&P 500 Equal Weight index returned 5.6% including dividends from the end of 1999 to the end of 2001, while the S&P 500 lost 19.9%, according to Opening Bell Daily. Detrick said he lived through that era: he "thought tech was all you could own" in the late 1990s, then watched it crash while other sectors did well. "The rotation was real," he said.

Carson's own research shows a similar pattern: from April to December 2000, the S&P 500 fell 11% while healthcare, utilities and staples surged.

Is defensive-led breadth a warning sign?

It can be, which is why Detrick still wants tech in front. On Facts vs Feelings, Carson called defensive-led breadth "a yellow flag," noting that tech has ranked among the top three sectors in nearly every bull market over the past century. Detrick told Pomp: "I still think tech is probably going to lead us into next year." He also said that if tech blows up, his bullish thesis probably won't play out.

For now, he doesn't see stress where it would show up first. "I say there's a monster under the bed. The credit markets would sense it. We're not seeing that," he said, noting that high-yield credit spreads are not blowing out, even as credit default swaps on some hyperscalers and AI cloud companies have widened. For more on that risk, see Is the AI Spending Boom a Bubble?

What is a breadth thrust and why does it matter?

A breadth thrust is when a large share of stocks surge at once, a sign of broad buying. Detrick pointed to the deGraaf Thrust, named after Jeff deGraaf of Renaissance Macro Research. It triggers when more than 55% of S&P 500 stocks hit a 20-day high. In a May 2025 Carson note, Detrick wrote that the S&P 500 was higher a year later 29 out of 30 times after the signal. "The last time we saw this signal was May of 2025," he told Pomp. He said the signal hasn't fired yet this time, but could if tech stocks join the rally.

Is this a global bull market?

Detrick thinks so. "The reality is this is a global bull market being led by global earnings, not just US large cap, it's not just seven stocks anymore," he said, pointing to solid earnings in Europe and emerging markets, the latter helped by South Korea's chip and AI memory boom.

What should investors take from this?

More stocks are participating, and the average stock has beaten the index this year. Detrick sees that as healthy, especially paired with calm credit markets. But broad gains led by defensive sectors have also shown up before major tech declines, as in 2000. His base case is that tech recovers and rejoins the rally, and he says that if it doesn't, his bullish view probably won't play out.

Key takeaways

  • On October 22, 324 of 500 S&P 500 stocks rose and the median stock gained 1.1%, even as the index fell 1.4% and tech dropped 3.3%.

  • The equal-weight S&P 500 is up 13% this year versus 11.4% for the S&P 500, according to Opening Bell Daily.

  • From the end of 1999 to the end of 2001, the equal-weight index returned 5.6% while the S&P 500 lost 19.9%.

  • Carson calls defensive-led breadth "a yellow flag" because tech has led nearly every bull market, and Ryan Detrick still expects tech to lead into next year.

  • Detrick says credit markets would "sense" real trouble, and they aren't showing it.

Best quotes from this episode

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"I say there's a monster under the bed. The credit markets would sense it. We're not seeing that."

Ryan Detrick, October 27, 2026 (03:37)
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"Yeah, tech has a bad day and then you have like 300 or 400 stocks up."

Ryan Detrick, October 27, 2026 (03:47)
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"I still think tech is probably going to lead us into next year."

Ryan Detrick, October 27, 2026 (07:02)
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"The reality is this is a global bull market being led by global earnings, not just US large cap, it's not just seven stocks anymore."

Ryan Detrick, October 27, 2026 (19:56)

FAQ

What is market breadth?

Market breadth measures how many stocks are participating in a move. Strong breadth means many stocks are rising, not just a few large ones.

Is the stock market rally broadening?

Yes. On October 22, 2026, 324 of 500 S&P 500 stocks rose even as the index fell 1.4%, according to Carson Group, and the equal-weight S&P 500 is beating the cap-weighted index this year.

What is the deGraaf breadth thrust?

A signal from Jeff deGraaf of Renaissance Macro Research that triggers when more than 55% of S&P 500 stocks hit a 20-day high. Carson found the S&P 500 was higher a year later 29 of 30 times. It last fired in May 2025.

Is defensive sector leadership a bad sign?

It can be. Carson calls defensive-led breadth a yellow flag, since tech has been a top-three sector in nearly every bull market. From April to December 2000, the S&P 500 fell 11% while defensive sectors surged.

Does Ryan Detrick think tech will lead again?

Yes. He said, "I still think tech is probably going to lead us into next year."

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Watch or listen to the full episode

Hear Ryan Detrick on market breadth, the dot-com rotation and what would confirm the next leg of the bull market.

"Everyone Is Bearish And That's Exactly Why You Should Buy" with Ryan Detrick, October 27, 2026. The breadth discussion starts around the 3-minute mark.

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Sources

  • Carson Group: Be Careful What You Wish For (Facts vs Feelings Ep. 211, Oct. 28, 2026)

  • Carson Group: Why This Rally Is Like a Beach Ball Under Water (Ryan Detrick, May 13, 2025)

  • Opening Bell Daily: Phil Rosen on the equal-weight S&P 500 (Oct. 26, 2026)

  • Opening Bell Daily: The average S&P 500 stock gains 5.6% across 2000 and 2001 (Oct. 26, 2026)

  • The Pomp Podcast: Ryan Detrick episode, Oct. 27, 2026 (from 03:14)

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