The short answer: Darius Dale is the founder and CEO of 42 Macro, an investment research firm he started in 2021. Before that he was a managing director at Hedgeye Risk Management. He has appeared on 64 episodes of The Pomp Podcast since January 2020, making him one of the show's most frequent guests.
A guest profile from The Pomp Podcast, hosted by Anthony Pompliano. Last updated: October 25, 2026.
Key takeaways
Darius Dale is the founder and CEO of 42 Macro, an investment research firm he started in 2021.
He was previously a managing director at Hedgeye Risk Management.
He has appeared on 64 Pomp Podcast episodes since January 2020, one of the show's most frequent guests.
Who is Darius Dale?
Darius Dale is a macro strategist and the founder and CEO of 42 Macro. His X profile lists him as founder of 42 Macro and a Yale alum.
According to his 42 Macro bio, he graduated from Yale in 2009 and worked at Hedgeye Risk Management before starting his own firm.
What is Darius Dale working on now?
42 Macro. He runs 42 Macro, which publishes macro research and risk management signals for investors.
Regular commentary. He appears often on The Pomp Podcast to talk about the Fed, the Treasury market, inflation and bitcoin.
What did Darius Dale do before?
Yale, 2009. He graduated from Yale University.
Hedgeye Risk Management. He became a managing director and head of the firm's macro team.
42 Macro, 2021. He founded 42 Macro.
What is Darius Dale known for?
Macro frameworks. He is known for data-driven models of growth, inflation and market regimes.
Fiscal dominance. He argues that government debt and deficits now drive markets more than the Fed does.
A Pomp Podcast regular. His 64 appearances make him one of the show's most frequent guests.
What does Darius Dale think about fiscal dominance, Treasuries and markets?
These are his opinions as shared on The Pomp Podcast, not forecasts or advice.
Fiscal dominance. In September 2026 he said: "I do believe we're in a fiscal dominance regime." (September 2026 episode)
The Bessent bluff. Asked whether Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent was bluffing the bond market, he said Bessent has backup, including possible Fed reserve purchases and bank deregulation, describing a Bessent bluff that is backed up by a Bessent bazooka.
Stocks. He argued that financial repression and debasement are a reason for stocks to be near all-time highs, and said 42 Macro does not think the bull market is over.
Treasuries. He called the fact that Treasury bonds are no longer seen as a safe haven a central issue in global finance, and said "The US Treasury has doubled its demand for capital."
The K-shaped economy. He argued that high government borrowing is squeezing households, small businesses and rate-sensitive sectors at the bottom of the K-shaped economy.
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Darius Dale on The Pomp Podcast
Darius Dale has appeared on 64 episodes of The Pomp Podcast, from January 6, 2020 to September 24, 2026. Some episodes are panel discussions with other guests. Every episode is listed below, newest first, with links to watch or listen.
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Bitcoin & Stocks Are Going Higher (The Money Printer Is Coming) | Darius Dale, released September 24, 2026.
2026 (3 episodes)
Sep 24: Bitcoin & Stocks Are Going Higher (The Money Printer Is Coming) | Darius Dale · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Jul 30: The Fed's Latest Move Just Changed Everything | Darius Dale · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Jun 25: Will The K-Shaped Economy Destroy America? | Darius Dale · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
2025 (8 episodes)
Dec 4: What Happens to Bitcoin When the Fed Finally Cuts? | Darius Dale · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Sep 3: Why Trump & The Fed Will Make Bitcoin Explode | Darius Dale · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Jun 4: #1558 Darius Dale | Why the Smart Money Is Going All In on Bitcoin · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
May 5: #1543 Darius Dale | Bitcoin & Stocks Will EXPLODE If This Happens · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Apr 9: #1526 Darius Dale | Trump Tariffs Will Destroy The Economy?! · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Mar 3: #1496 Darius Dale | Trump Is Crashing The Market On Purpose?! · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Feb 3: #1480 Darius Dale | Trump Tariffs Are Not What You Expect · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Jan 6: #1464 Darius Dale | Bitcoin & Stocks Are In For A Wild 2025 · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
2024 (12 episodes)
Dec 4: #1449 Darius Dale | Wall Street Is BULLISH On Bitcoin · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Oct 2: #1416 Darius Dale | Will The Port Strike Crash The Economy? · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Sep 3: #1402 Darius Dale | Stock Market Predictions To End 2024! · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Aug 7: #1391 Darius Dale | How Japan Broke Bitcoin and Stocks! · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
May 1: #1354 Darius Dale | Presidential Election Could Make Assets EXPLODE · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Apr 9: #1340 Darius Dale | Inflation Is Sticky & Bitcoin Will Skyrocket?! · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Mar 12: #1325 Darius Dale on Bitcoin, Stocks All-Time Highs: Remain Bullish? · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Feb 28: #1318 Darius Dale | Bitcoin Hits $60,000 and Still Bullish?! · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Feb 15: #1311 Darius Dale | Will Global Liquidity Push Bitcoin To All-Time Highs? · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Jan 31: #1303 Darius Dale on Interest Rates, Fed, Election Year, Macro Outlook · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Jan 18: #1297 Darius Dale | Bitcoin Data Is Giving The Green Light?! · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Jan 3: #1290 Darius Dale on Bitcoin ETF: Wall Street Can't Wait! · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
2023 (14 episodes)
Dec 6: #1279 Darius Dale Reveals Bitcoin Strategy · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Oct 12: #1259 Darius Dale on How Markets Are Reacting To Global Conflict · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Sep 26: #1248 Darius Dale on Why China's Economy Is Collapsing · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Sep 14: #1242 Darius Dale | Will Inflation Come Back Hot? · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Aug 30: #1237 Darius Dale | Will Bitcoin Crash Before The Halving? · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Aug 15: #1234 Darius Dale | Central Banks Control The Stock Market · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Aug 2: #1231 Darius Dale | US Economy Is VERY STRONG Right Now · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Jul 18: #1226 Darius Dale | Wall Street Is Calling The Fed's Bluff?! · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Jul 5: #1218 Darius Dale | Wall Street Insider Reveals When Recession Will Hit · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Jun 21: #1214 Darius Dale | Central Banks Are Secretly Controlling Stock Prices?! · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Jun 6: #1208 Darius Dale | Bitcoin Is Falling Because Of China & Japan? · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
May 23: #1200 Darius Dale On Debt Crisis, Recession, Central Banks, Global Liquidity · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Apr 25: #1191 Darius Dale On Global Liquidity & Bitcoin Halving · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Apr 12: #1186 Darius Dale on Bitcoin Rally, Interest Rates, Inflation, & Banking Crisis · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
2022 (25 episodes)
Nov 17: #1124 Darius Dale | Should We Expect The Fed To Pivot? · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Jul 29: #1063 Darius Dale Gives The Truth On How Bad The Economy Is · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Jul 15: #1049 Darius Dale On How The Fed Is Losing The War With Inflation · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Jul 8: #1036 Darius Dale On Why The Fed Will Tighten Until Something Breaks · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Jul 1: #1027 Darius Dale On How To Navigate These Difficult Moments In The Market · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Jun 24: #1019 Darius Dale On How We Get To Deflation · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Jun 17: #1009 Darius Dale On Why We’re Already In A Recession · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Jun 10: #997 Darius On Why Inflation May Be Here To Stay · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Jun 3: #987 Darius Dale On The Chain Reaction Of A Recession · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
May 13: #959 Darius Dale On The Brutal Macro Environment · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
May 6: #949 Darius Dale On Why Investors Should Be Very Nervous · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Apr 29: #939 Understanding The Current State Of Bitcoin w/ Darius Dale, Perianne Boring, & Brian Estes · Spotify
Apr 22: #927 Darius Dale On The Odds Of A Recession This Year · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Apr 15: #917 Darius Dale On Why The Fed Has A Serious Inflation Problem On Their Hands · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Apr 1: #894 Personalized Monetary Policy Is Coming w/ Darius Dale · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Mar 25: #882 Bitcoin & Ethereum Are Going To Break Out Of Bear Market w/ Darius Dale · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Mar 18: #870 How To Invest During A Recession w/ Darius Dale · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Mar 11: #856 Inflation is At Least 10% w/ Darius Dale · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Mar 4: #847 How Russian Sanctions Will Affect The U.S. w/Darius Dale · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Feb 25: #838 How Will The Market Respond To Russian War? w/ Darius Dale · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Feb 18: #830 How Will Russia & Ukraine Impact The Macro Economy w/ Darius Dale · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Feb 11: #822 Inflation Hits 7.5% w/ Darius Dale · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Feb 4: #812 The Fed Didn't Raise Rates - What Now? w/ Darius Dale · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Jan 28: #802 Inflation Continues To Hurt The Poor The Most w/ Darius Dale · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
Jan 21: #791 How The Macro Economy Is Affecting Your Investments w/ Darius Dale · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
2021 (1 episode)
Oct 13: #687 Breaking Down The Macro Economy w/ Darius Dale · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
2020 (1 episode)
Jan 6: Darius Dale, Managing Director at Hedgeye Risk Management: The Truth about Bitcoin's Future · YouTube · Apple Podcasts · Spotify
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Frequently asked questions
Who is Darius Dale?
Darius Dale is the founder and CEO of 42 Macro, an investment research firm, and a former managing director at Hedgeye Risk Management.
What is 42 Macro?
42 Macro is the macro research firm Darius Dale founded in 2021.
What is fiscal dominance?
Fiscal dominance is when government debt and deficits drive monetary policy and markets. Dale said in September 2026 that he believes the U.S. is in a fiscal dominance regime.
Does Darius Dale think the bull market is over?
In September 2026 he said 42 Macro does not think the bull market is over.
Where did Darius Dale go to college?
He graduated from Yale University in 2009.
How many times has Darius Dale been on The Pomp Podcast?
Darius Dale has appeared on 64 episodes of The Pomp Podcast, from January 6, 2020 to September 24, 2026.
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Last updated: October 25, 2026
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